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> Miles and Fallon 3rd cousins?, Incestual implications
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post Jul 18 2005, 09:26 PM
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Do I understand that if Sable & Alexis are 1st cousins then Fallon married her 3rd cousin Miles Colby? Trying to figure family tree...Thanks unsure.gif
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post Jul 19 2005, 11:32 PM
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Im confused, someone may have to explain this one to me wacko.gif



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post Jul 20 2005, 07:25 PM
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I'm also a little confused.
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post Jul 21 2005, 10:24 AM
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I can't believe I never thought of this before! Alexis and Sable were first cousins! (I think their mummies were sisters or something?) So Alexis' daughter and Sable's son married each other! I forget what you call it when your cousin has a child, I think it's first cousin, once removed? But, what are two people called who's mummies are cousins? Second cousins?
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post Jul 21 2005, 12:24 PM
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Jeff & Fallon are cousins too? wacko.gif (Francesca is Sable's sister)


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post Jul 26 2005, 09:20 PM
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I don't know is this link is of any help but it's the familytree Goran made.

http://www.ultimatedynasty.net/familytree.html


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post Aug 7 2005, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE (Adam -from Poland @ Jul 21 2005, 10:24 PM)
Jeff & Fallon are cousins too?  wacko.gif  (Francesca is Sable's sister)
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Yep, that's a tricky one. And it applies to both Jeff/Fallon and Miles/Fallon.

Jeff's mother is Francesca, Fallon's is Alexis.
Miles' mother is Sable, Fallon's is Alexis.

In both cases Jeff and Fallon, and Miles and Fallon share a great grandparent.

That is ... their mothers were cousins.
Therefore their grandparents were siblings.
Therefore one of their great grandparents was the same person.

That makes them third cousins.

(A great site ... http://www.genealogy.com/16_cousn.html ... explains the details and has a really handy box chart for working who's what, how many times removed in family trees.)

Now, strictly speaking it's not actually incest. The Catholic Church measures a thing called consanguity, which is how closely related two people are. Anything four or less is incestuous in the eyes of the church, and third cousins rank a distant eight.

First cousins, for example, are 4. One's own children are 1, nieces and nephes are 3. First cousins once removed are 5, Second cousins are 6, etc.

Cheers,

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post Aug 7 2005, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (midato @ Aug 7 2005, 10:50 PM)
Yep, that's a tricky one. And it applies to both Jeff/Fallon and Miles/Fallon.

Jeff's mother is Francesca, Fallon's is Alexis.
Miles' mother is Sable, Fallon's is Alexis.

In both cases Jeff and Fallon, and Miles and Fallon share a great grandparent.

That is ... their mothers were cousins.
Therefore their grandparents were siblings.
Therefore one of their great grandparents was the same person.

That makes them third cousins.

(A great site ... http://www.genealogy.com/16_cousn.html ... explains the details and has a really handy box chart for working who's what, how many times removed in family trees.)

Now, strictly speaking it's not actually incest. The Catholic Church measures a thing called consanguity, which is how closely related two people are. Anything four or less is incestuous in the eyes of the church, and third cousins rank a distant eight.

First cousins, for example, are 4. One's own children are 1, nieces and nephes are 3. First cousins once removed are 5, Second cousins are 6, etc.

Cheers,

Michael
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SORRY!

To get through all that and then make a mistake! Quelle horror!

They are SECOND cousins.
They share a great grandparent, which makes Jeff/Fallon and Miles/Fallon SECOND cousins. LOL.

The good news is that with a consanguity factor of 6, they are STILL not committing incest.

Sorry about that!

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post Aug 7 2005, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (midato @ Aug 7 2005, 07:59 AM)
SORRY!

To get through all that and then make a mistake! Quelle horror!

They are SECOND cousins.
They share a great grandparent, which makes Jeff/Fallon and Miles/Fallon SECOND cousins. LOL.

The good news is that with a consanguity factor of 6, they are STILL not committing incest.

Sorry about that!

Michael
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wacko.gif I went through the process and agree that they are 2nd cousins.FYI whistling.gif
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